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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2008, 05:38:23 PM »
In Pecan Grove, they normally do not throw the bins in the street. Yesterday, though, they threw E's smack dab in the middle of the road for some reason. Mine were laid down in the grass, so I'm not sure why they saw it necessary to put his bins in the way of all our neighborhood traffic. I had baby girl with me, so just pulled them out of the street. Sorry I didn't get them all the way up the drive way.

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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2008, 06:55:19 PM »
I leave food or GC for somewhere.  When we lived in MD  we left them a case of beer :D
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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2008, 09:55:53 PM »
I currently have two garbage cans I use for recycle. When they get full I take them to the recycle center west of town. With the bins it will be nice not having to put it in the truck and take it anymore.

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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 09:04:26 PM »
Today at the City Council Meeting, the City Manager explained how this was going to work: 

We'd get bins.  Big freaking bins.  Two of them.  And that will solve all our problems (at an increase in rate, of course). 

Oh, and they'd only be picked up once a week!  In the nanny-state of Missouri we had once-a-week pickup, and that was one of the reasons I came back to Texas.  Don't ever kid yourself, once-a-week garbage pickup is garbage.

So other than our City using a chainsaw to fix a hangnail (apparently drax0r and his Tara Farms neighbors strew their trash all over the street in bags - no where else have I seen this, least of all in my subdivision) we're also getting the old smoke 'n mirror routine:

Best I can recollect, here's how the conversation went:

[Council]:  "Do you think the average family in the average home will be able to fit two freaking huge trash bins in their garage and still fit two average-sized vehicles in there also?" (Italics mine)

[City Manager]:  "Yes.  Yes I do."

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Oh really?

Sir,  that's simply not the case with myself, or anyone else I know.

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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 09:12:47 PM »
Once a week trash pick up sucks. It makes the whole neighborhood stink.

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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 09:40:51 PM »
I don't like the fact that this is something that we are gona be forced to pay for?..I don't see what is wrong with the way it is now.  If the few that don't have their trash in containers with lids...why not put a notice on their door, fine them or something else.  Why do we have to pay for the few who can't seem to get the message?

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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 10:06:44 PM »
Wait.

So we're getting those big ole' trash bins - which means they don't have to have as many employees on the routes since the machine does the heavy lifting.

They're reducing by half the number of pickups.  That'll save the trash company a ton.

Yet they're increasing the cost of the service?

Sounds to me like it could cost ~60% less.  That would be a win for the citizens, yeah?


P.S.: In defense of my neighbors in TF, the trash strewn down the street is most often the fault of the garbage men flinging bags around like monkeys with poo.
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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 10:13:43 PM »
The trash pickup will be "semi automatic".  Which means that a man will move the bin from your drive way to the truck, attach the bin to the truck, then pull a lever.  The lever will activate a mechanism that will lift and dump the bin.  Then the man will put the bin back.

So sorry, but no savings in labor.

You will love the bins.  They are da bomb!  It is also good for landfills.  Garbage decomposes faster if the plastic bags are not sealed.  When I lived in Garland we were encouraged to not tie up the bags tight.  It allowed more trash in the bins (no air pockets) and it promoted the decomposing process.

It is a 2 edge sword - IMO.   We will have recycling - GOOD.  We will only have one day a week pickup for plain trash - BAD.  Another GOOD, is that with 1 time per week trash and 1 time per week recycling we will not be increasing the number of trips that the large trucks take down our streets. Those trucks are hard on the streets.

Another really GOOOOOOD thing is that the service is staying with the local company and not going to some big conglomerate out of Dallas.
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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2008, 10:17:37 PM »
Has anyone ever driven through the Falls on a windy trash day?  On one particularly windy trash day, I saw garbage men picking dirty diapers and whatnot out of the middle of the street and from people's lawns.  It was pretty darn disgusting if you ask me.  So I'm all in favour of lidded bins, but..I'd rather that be something made manditory by my HOA rather than having to pay for one (especially when I already have one).
What I'd love to see is them picking up recycling.  Heck, until someone mentioned it in this thread, I had no idea that there was even a recycling center near town.  I'm all about leaving a nicer cleaner earth for generations to come.

Oh ya..the one day a week pick up idea stinks too!

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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2008, 10:22:06 PM »
Bradshaw and Sons will do a great job.  It is great that we are keeping a local company and the service we have come to enjoy (they are always very helpful and friendly)

As for once a week, remember that you will have the recycling as well which will reduce the amount of actual garbage.  The issue with the HOA's having rules is that they are not able to "police" the neighborhoods every week therefore it is left up to the homeowners to report their neighbors which never creates the atmosphere that we are looking for here in Anna. 

In the long run, this is sure to help lots of our issues.

In the meantime if you have items that need to be recycled, you can take it to the Highschool Parking lot the first Saturday of every month.
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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2008, 10:38:21 PM »
So sorry, but no savings in labor.

Ok, so there's no savings in labor because they're choosing to go with an inefficient system that requires extra manpower.  Gotcha.

So given that, you've still got the weekly pickup vs. semi-weekly, so that should only reduce the cost by half? 

When I lived in Garland we were encouraged to not tie up the bags tight.  It allowed more trash in the bins (no air pockets) and it promoted the decomposing process.

When I lived in Garland they just had one dude on each garbage route and a truck that could reach out and pick up the bins without manual intervention.  I'd be interested to see how many saved man-hours it takes to justify the cost of the equipment upgrade.

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We will have recycling - GOOD.

It takes more energy and creates more pollution to recycle things than it does to place it in a landfill.

Also, modern technology has evolved to the point where landfills are actually helpful, as they serve as a source of natural gas power which is far cleaner burning than fossil fuels. 

The only thing it makes any sense to recycle is aluminum cans. Everything else, glass, paper (especially paper; recycling paper kills more trees than making new paper from tree farms does), plastic, most kinds of metals, and everything else you are told to recycle is (probably well-intentioned) propaganda.

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Another GOOD, is that with 1 time per week trash and 1 time per week recycling we will not be increasing the number of trips that the large trucks take down our streets. Those trucks are hard on the streets.

How much more life should we expect from the streets by moving to weekly pickups?  I mean, your statement seems  reasonable, but I'm not sure how significant a contribution over the normal life of the road we're talking about.  Most of the neighborhoods we're talking about have concrete streets, not black top.


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Another really GOOOOOOD thing is that the service is staying with the local company and not going to some big conglomerate out of Dallas.

I'm all for supporting local business, but when we're talking about how to spend the citizen's money, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few (and if you think I got that from Star Trek you're very very wrong.)

If a big Dallas conglomerate can do it better/faster/cheaper for the people of Anna then I think that's something we should at least give some consideration.
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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2008, 10:48:46 PM »
Has anyone ever driven through the Falls on a windy trash day?  On one particularly windy trash day, I saw garbage men picking dirty diapers and whatnot out of the middle of the street and from people's lawns.  It was pretty darn disgusting if you ask me.  So I'm all in favour of lidded bins, but..I'd rather that be something made manditory by my HOA rather than having to pay for one (especially when I already have one).
What I'd love to see is them picking up recycling.  Heck, until someone mentioned it in this thread, I had no idea that there was even a recycling center near town.  I'm all about leaving a nicer cleaner earth for generations to come.

Oh ya..the one day a week pick up idea stinks too!

The last really windy day in the Falls, my wife and I picked up NO LESS than eight bags of trash from our yard.

I like the idea of the bigger bins, but am not a fan of our not being able to go above that capacity, as we would have been stuck with all that for a week, while trying to play catch with the limited space for our own.

I really HATE the once a week thing, as it is more that possible that my kid will forget that chore, or some other such nonsense.
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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2008, 10:53:45 PM »
Quote from: Glodowg  link=topic=917.msg18343#msg18343 date=1207710823
The trash pickup will be "semi automatic".  Which means that a man will move the bin from your drive way to the truck, attach the bin to the truck, then pull a lever.  The lever will activate a mechanism that will lift and dump the bin.  Then the man will put the bin back.

So sorry, but no savings in labor.



I dont see how this saves no labor? instead of needing three people, we will only need two on each truck, a driver and the guy who pulls the stuff onto the little arm, especially since they will most likely only do one at a time. Couple that with the fact that they will be cutting the routes in half, and I see a big savings.

And why does it have to be a man that does all this? whatever happened to equal rights??  ;D
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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2008, 07:13:42 AM »
So sorry, but no savings in labor.

Ok, so there's no savings in labor because they're choosing to go with an inefficient system that requires extra manpower.  Gotcha.

So given that, you've still got the weekly pickup vs. semi-weekly, so that should only reduce the cost by half? 


The biggest reason that this was the chosen method is because it would be nearly impossible for the trucks with the fully automatic arms to get to the trash cans due to all the cars and or construction vehicles that park on the streets.  Bradshaw and sons were cheaper on their bids then any of the larger companies.
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Re: Trash Bins for Pickup
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2008, 07:57:41 AM »
The biggest reason that this was the chosen method is because it would be nearly impossible for the trucks with the fully automatic arms to get to the trash cans due to all the cars and or construction vehicles that park on the streets.  Bradshaw and sons were cheaper on their bids then any of the larger companies.

At some point, the misunderstanding that this was an attack on Bradsaw and Sons has come into play, and I don't know why.

NO ONE IS BAD-MOUTHING THEM, LEAST OF ALL ME.

My beef is with this proposed change.  Apparently some residents of Anna like to throw their trash out into the street, and/or use bags.  I have a really nifty idea:  STOP THROWING YOUR TRASH OUT INTO THE STREET AND STOP USING BAGS.

Moving laterally to a company which will provide trash bins is dumb because the people who throw their trash into the street and/or use bags aren't going to change their retarded ways just because the city provides them a means of garbage storage!  This is an overtly liberal step:  Rather than teach the citizen (and by 'teach' I mean cite or fine) we're going to GIVE THEM SOMETHING NEW TO DISRESPECT in hopes it changes their attitude?  THIS DOESN'T WORK IN REAL LIFE!

So please, let's stop making this about Bradshaw and Sons (not the issue) and focus on amicable solutions for the City.