Author Topic: How do you feel about this snopes article: Editorial by pianist Huntley Brown  (Read 1142 times)

Offline d_huntress

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2015
    • Change Your Coffee; Change Your Life.
Huntley Brown

Claim:   Editorial by pianist Huntley Brown explains why he won't vote for Barack Obama.

Status:   True.

Example:   [Collected via e-mail, October 2008]

I wanted to send this article from Huntley Brown - a fabulous concert pianist, a man of God and a black man. I appreciate so much his reasoning for not voting for Obama.

  Why I Can't Vote For Obama
By Huntley Brown


Dear Friends, A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it's worth repeating...

First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.

Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can't dictate the terms He does because He is the leader.

I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.

In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning to name a few, wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.

We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, don't judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don't know
Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.

NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)

To beat Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.

There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100% rating. There is a reason the homosexual community supports him. There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him. There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court. There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.

Let's take a look at the practice he wanted to continue

The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures:

A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby)
B. The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
C. The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head.
D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.
E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.

God help him. There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law.

Think about this: You can't give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane.

There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years.

Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why now?

Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 "Go and make disciples of all nations." This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?

Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a ...

1. Commitment to the White Community
2. Commitment to the White Family
3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community.
5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

Would you support a President who went to a church like that?

Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama's former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.

This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The church can't be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.

A church can't have a value system based on race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if itʼs a white church or a black church it's still wrong. Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.

Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.

Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?

So what does all this mean for the nation?

In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing - judgment.

Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 1:9 "Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do."

Then God says

1 Samuel 1:18 " When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day." 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles." 21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king."

Here is what we know for sure.

God is not schizophrenic

He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God.

Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.

For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the face and say; Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion. He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against you. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the other way because of the economy.

I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions. Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends.

Since we know someone's value system has to be placed on the nation,

1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation.

2. Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation?

Blessings, Huntley Brown

Origins:   Huntley Brown is, as described on his web site, a "a Christian concert pianist whose versatile repertoire includes classical, jazz, gospel, reggae and many other styles." An e-mail to Mr. Brown about the item reproduced above, an explanation attribued to him about why he would not be voting for Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election, drew the following response:
Yes, I wrote this e-mail. I was responding to my friends who asked me to vote for Senator Obama because he is black.

It was not my intention to send it around the world.

I did not post this e-mail or send out any pictures attached. I wish they had not done that.

My friends did not ask me to vote for Senator Mccain which explains why my e-mail was geared towards Senator Obama.

My e-mail was not meant to influence public opinion in any way, but simply to share with my friends my views on why I could not vote for Senator Obama.

I have problems with both candidates, but the differences I have with Senator Mccain are pale in comparison with the ones I have with Senator Obama

For the record, I am not a politician. I am not a Democrat or a Republican. I am a Christian independent who just loves the Lord.

If Senator Obama wins he can count on my prayer support every day.

I tell my friends it's like a family where you have different opinions, but you love each other just the same. I love and appreciate Senator Obama but our views are diametrically opposed.

If I knew my e-mail would have generated this much interest on a national level, I would have left out a few points. I don't want people to think I am against gay people or against people who have had abortions. (I am not) We are all sinners saved by grace but we need to have some absolute laws to govern society or else we will self destruct.

What has really bothered me is our beautiful black women constitute only 6% of the population, yet they comprise 36% of the abortion industry's clientele. Obama has done nothing to stop this. Most people don't know that the leading abortion providers have chosen to exploit us blacks by locating 94% of their abortuaries in urban neighborhoods with high black populations. Obama has done nothing to stop this?

To be honest I can't wait to vote for the first black President but it has to be a person who shares the values I read in the Bible.

Thanks for checking to make sure my e-mail is legit it is.

The sad part is I have been getting hate mail and my family is being harassed. As you can imagine not everyone is happy with my e-mail. God bless you richly.
Last updated:   15 October 2008

The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp

Urban Legends Reference Pages © 1995-2008 by snopes.com.
This material may not be reproduced without permission.
snopes and the snopes.com logo are registered service marks of snopes.com.
Ask me how I can help you feel your best.

Offline Sprocket

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
Thats a good solid read, Thank you for that, d_huntress.
Huntley Brown should run for prez!!

Offline ~j

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2020
  • I drink therefore I am.
I think it sounds like someone bashing someones ability to run a country based on their religions beliefs.  Quoting the Bible and your views on subjects such as abortion to try and show that someone is a bad or immoral person?  Come on!  I am not saying I am backing Obama, just saying this is a pointless point of view, or at least should be.  If you let things like, hrrm, whether or not someone supports the freedoms, which may fly in the face of your religion, guide your vote then you don't know what your doing.  Your choosing a president that will most likely back your religious beliefs, not a president that will most likely do what is best for our country as a whole.   

This is a free country..  I don't care if it goes against every belief I have.  If you are gay, that is you, I am not to judge you or stop your way of life.  The government should not have any say in that what so ever!  The Church may say all they want, but should not be able to influence a law preventing FREEDOM! 

To me, a useless rant..

WTF does a pianists POV matter anyways?  Hey, did you see that e-mail from Bob about Obama?  He is a well known banjo player! 

This has nothing to do with what he does!  This has spread simply because the pianist that is saying this is a black and religion.   Oh, he's famous, I better listen, I like her piano playing! 

Yes, and I will listen to Paris Hilton cause she is white and famous! Oh crap, she is missing the religion part I think

Man, using religion like this really irritates me!

cd ~home
rm -rf /tmp/soapbox

haha, she said pianist!   
« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 01:35:55 PM by ~j »
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."

Offline RedHighHeels

  • Major FANTASTIC Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3550
  • You cannot put the same shoe on every foot...
Ok, I am sorry but I am not religious and there were some good points in there.

I CAN NOT support someone that believes in killing babies that the "mom" couldn't make up her mind if she wanted (or whatever possessed her to wait until this baby was VIABLE!), I just can't.  And I don't know how any mother can.  :'(  We have had two miscarriages and I still think about those babies every single day.  How could you be so selfish as to kill your own baby?  Honestly, I don't care what videos or emails are spread about that man, it's politics, it's shady.  I just don't want him running our country!!!

I also think that there has been some super shady shit going on with Obama and his religious affiliations.  Yes, it's politics and politicians are liars, but wow, this "I didn't listen in church for 20 years" song and dance blows my mind.

So while I may not be religious, and I may be broke if McCain wins because his economic plan isn't as good, I will still have my values.
I am sarcastic and have a smart ass attitude.  It's a natural defense against drama, bullshit, and stupidity...

Offline ~j

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2020
  • I drink therefore I am.
Wasn't saying I supported anything that Obama does.  I cannot support that because it's wrong, not because God says it's wrong, because I feel it's wrong.  If she would have went into that topic and based her vote solely on that I could have backed this.  The quoting of Bible verses and rants on lifestyles threw all validity to her opinion out the window.  If you read my rant you'll notice it's mostly about the homosexual issue.  Something I have no right to oppose, as a decent person.

I cannot support that position on abortion at all, I feel it is very wrong, not because I read it's wrong in a book, just because I truly feel it is.  The quote about looking God in the face and explaining why you voted for who??  I can not vote for Obama for many reasons.  The fear of God isn't one of them..   The fact they are trying to make it one with this fanatical rant rubs me a bit, all I am saying.




« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 02:11:56 PM by ~j »
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."

Offline CAB

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1287
Believe this was written to the writters Christian friends tho, so the Bible is a mutual moral compass between them..

But yes, you are right, it is hard to tell someone that they should do this or not do this or whatever b/c the Bible says so, when they don't believe the Bible..  But believe this wasn't ever intended to scare or make non Christians to vote one way or the other.. but to give the fellow Christian that believes in the Bible some food for thought.

Offline RedHighHeels

  • Major FANTASTIC Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3550
  • You cannot put the same shoe on every foot...
Well, as long as none of us are voting for him I'm happy!   ;D

So how the HELL is he winning the polls???
I am sarcastic and have a smart ass attitude.  It's a natural defense against drama, bullshit, and stupidity...

Offline ~j

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2020
  • I drink therefore I am.
Believe this was written to the writters Christian friends tho, so the Bible is a mutual moral compass between them..

But yes, you are right, it is hard to tell someone that they should do this or not do this or whatever b/c the Bible says so, when they don't believe the Bible..  But believe this wasn't ever intended to scare or make non Christians to vote one way or the other.. but to give the fellow Christian that believes in the Bible some food for thought.

Oh I know, but as you can tell someone took this letter, the fact the writer is black, the fact he is a famous Christian, and used it for gain..

I also know that will never change.  Politicians will use anything and everything from every angle.  And we as a society will continue to bitch and moan yet thrive in the gossip and smearing.  Let's face it, we got issues, more celebrity gossip and rumor mags are sold daily than news magazines.  
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."

Offline ~j

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2020
  • I drink therefore I am.
So how the HELL is he winning the polls???

Sadly, Economy trumps morality..
"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."

Offline RedHighHeels

  • Major FANTASTIC Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3550
  • You cannot put the same shoe on every foot...
So how the HELL is he winning the polls???

Sadly, Economy trumps morality..

I believe that is what got us in this mess to begin with.
I am sarcastic and have a smart ass attitude.  It's a natural defense against drama, bullshit, and stupidity...

Offline Sprocket

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 635
Believe this was written to the writters Christian friends tho, so the Bible is a mutual moral compass between them..

But yes, you are right, it is hard to tell someone that they should do this or not do this or whatever b/c the Bible says so, when they don't believe the Bible..  But believe this wasn't ever intended to scare or make non Christians to vote one way or the other.. but to give the fellow Christian that believes in the Bible some food for thought.

Good point Cab.

Offline d_huntress

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2015
    • Change Your Coffee; Change Your Life.
I greatly appreciate everyone's points of view. Thank you.

~j, I totally agree that this man being a pianist does not make him a political scholar, but look at how many people have jumped on Obama's bandwagon because they see Oprah or George Clooney profess their faith in him. That scares me. Now, I'm not saying that every Obama supporter is behind him because celebrities back him --- but some folks are swayed by him charm, his physical symmetry and all the face time he's getting on TV.

Red High Heels, that is my thought exactly. I cannot support someone who think that partial-birth abortion is a "Legitimate medical procedure" that in some way must be permitted for a woman's health. I, too, have lost 2 babies. I would have gone to the ends of the Earth to have been able to keep those babies. There are millions of families out there that would give their left arm to be able to raise a baby that a woman decides not to keep. Many are willing to pay for medical bills and jump through all kinds of hoops. But most of all, murder is murder. If partial birth murder is okay, then why are people punished for killing anyone else? Wouldn't that simply be a delayed post-birth abortion?

Ask me how I can help you feel your best.

Offline ~j

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2020
  • I drink therefore I am.
Hrrm, there is a thought..  I can see it now Judge: "Sir, why did you kill your 40 year old co-corker"  Defendant: "Well your honor, now that partial Birth abortions are legal I thought I would go ahead and do what his mother should of!"

"If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs."

Offline ehowton

  • Colonel COURAGEOUS Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 7702
  • Fingering the Muse
    • http://ehowton.livejournal.com
So how the HELL is he winning the polls???

That all the liberal media is reporting.  I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Barr won the election.  No one will have known because the liberal media is on an Obama-lovefest.  They're only reporting what they want to.

Offline CAB

  • Captain Awesome Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1287
Quote from: ehowton  link=topic=1854.msg33951#msg33951 date=1225122819
So how the HELL is he winning the polls???

That all the liberal media is reporting.  I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Barr won the election.  No one will have known because the liberal media is on an Obama-lovefest.  They're only reporting what they want to.


Thought I would look up your claim E.. appears you may be right..

http://www.mrc.org/realitycheck/2008/fax20081023.asp