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Offline smalltownTX

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And so it begins....
« on: February 03, 2012, 12:27:53 PM »
I figured this was coming.  I already average right at 100GB a month with peaks to 175GB, and I'm going to start working from home in the next few months with 8-10 hours of VPN running daily.  Wonder where I'll end up?






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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 12:37:46 PM »
I'm not too happy about this.  I don't torrent, and won't be near these caps for the most part.  Every once in a while I have to re-download all my Games For Windows Live games after formatting a hard drive and those are in the 75-80Gb range of total size.

What this is doing, is cutting off the insanely ridiculous bandwidth hogs.  I fully understand the business reasons behind it.  I just don't prefer to know I am under a cap because of a small group of torrent sharing, file stealing douchebags. That will of course, fight to the death on it being their "right" to do so.

I knew this was coming with Suddenlink.  They have been sending out usage statistic reports for several months now.  Not mentioning a cap, just comparing usage to other customers in general, and usage based on the package speeds.

Every once in a while, a couple good shows will come across that we haven't seen and they become available on Netflix.  We can plow through several seasons worth of shows in a couple weekends.  That is a decent amount of data, and so is Youtube, and other normal uses of the Internet.

Once again it's a few bad apples to spoil the bunch.  I would expect to see performance improvements in the next few months after the massive bandwidth hogs start getting penalize hard core for their mega usage.  Then after they either stop their gross consumption, or switch to another carrier, the rest of us could see faster speeds at all times of the day.  Here's to hoping.
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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 02:01:19 PM »
We've gotten close to the limit and actually got an email once that warned us of going over (was there an unwritten limit prior to this?)


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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 02:53:55 PM »
I'm on the 20mb plan, so I've not gotten any warnings yet.  Basically, that's just Netflix and surfing. 

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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 04:12:24 PM »
It's not even really because of the "evil" file sharers, with sufficient infrastructure and bandwidth the heavy users wouldn't be any issue.  The issue come in that most (all) ISPs massively oversell their available bandwidth and get away with it because most people are fairly light users.  That is all changing with more video content being consumed by more people.  But again it should all be manageable if they keep investing in their infrastructure.  I think it's mostly a revenue grab designed to penalize heavy users and push them to their higher tiered plans.  I'm actually surprised that the caps are somewhat reasonable, at least for me based on my usage history since they started reporting.  I run a VPN 8+ hours a day, work at home, and watch a lot of Netflix streaming.  Even then I don't meet the caps, and when they started showing bandwidth usage I took it as a challenge to use as much as I could within my normal activity patterns.

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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 04:15:42 PM »
We've gotten close to the limit and actually got an email once that warned us of going over (was there an unwritten limit prior to this?)

Are you on a plan slower than 10/1? 
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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 04:35:26 PM »
The caps being as generous as they are (for now), points to it being a direct attack against the folks that continuously gorge on bandwidth.

I don't know that for sure, but you know there are file suckers out there consuming more bandwidth than 10, 20 or possibly even more homes that participate in normal usage.

I would love to see how much the top 10 bandwidth hogs consume in a month.  I bet each of the top 10 folks consume more than 10 normal households.

I don't like the caps.  The next step would be pure usage based billing.  Netflix and youtube heavy households will likely change their habits at that point.

I will post my usage graph shortly.
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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 04:41:23 PM »
Yea I was (am) upset in principle at this change, but the caps are high enough and the policy reasonable enough (no charge till the 3rd overage) that I've decided it's not worth my time to complain or get upset.  The real bandwidth hogs could be dealt with via QOS and traffic shaping instead of usage caps, and I'm sure they are doing those things already and now adding the caps.  But the usage cap approach seems to now be the standard, and it generates some additional revenue to boot.

I would be very interested to see the data on the top 1% of Suddenlink customers, but I doubt they'll ever share it.
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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 04:53:00 PM »
My usage does appear lower than others on here - but that is changing.  We switched to DirecTV and they have a ton of stuff on Video on Demand that we have been DL'ing and watching.  We actually just talked yesterday about dropping Netflix streaming as it has been maybe 4 months since we used it at all....  January was the result of a hard drive re-image and a Games for Windows Live download.  About to do another one as I installed an ssd yesterday.
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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 05:09:39 PM »
Maybe we should all just move to Canada
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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2012, 08:15:43 AM »
This isn't exactly a new thing. I've been a customer since before Suddenlink bought out Cebridge. I think I found this chart a couple years ago. Never the less, I'm nowhere near the cap for my tier, maxing out average at about 100gb with 10hr/day vpn (wfh), willey nilly Netflix usage, and extensive iTunes downloads for media and podcasts (350gb cap). Hence, haven't ever given my limits any thought.

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Re: And so it begins....
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 01:06:53 PM »
I do work from home 8-10 hours per day on a VPN including a VoIP phone. I have yet to hit the 100 GB mark, and I "shovel" large spreadsheets and DB processing back and forth, but no problem yet. I have just switched to the 20 MBit plan and if need arises, I am trying to get anything better through a business plan, since my company reimburses me for my Internet connection. However, I always thought that 250 GB would not be enough for me/us, but looking at my usage graph, my/our heaviest usage was 90 GB so far and that included watching all seasons of Bones on Netflix during that particular month.

It's an inconvenience and I wish we would be able to enjoy the speeds and unlimited usage that other countries do, but speaking from a teleworker perspective, it does work.

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