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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #120 on: July 28, 2009, 01:14:25 PM »
You didn't really expect that to change did you?
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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #121 on: July 28, 2009, 03:49:02 PM »
thus goes the saying... once an idiot, always an idiot?

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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #122 on: July 28, 2009, 03:57:54 PM »
No mess jesus!

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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #123 on: February 02, 2010, 10:26:05 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/02/lancet.retraction.autism/index.html

The medical journal The Lancet on Tuesday retracted a controversial 1998 paper that linked the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine to autism.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #124 on: February 02, 2010, 10:29:17 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8493753.stm

Lancet accepts MMR study 'false'


Experts say MMR is completely safe

The medical journal which originally published the discredited research linking autism and MMR has now issued a full retraction of the paper.
The Lancet said it now accepted claims made by the researchers were "false".
It comes after Dr Andrew Wakefield, the lead researcher in the 1998 paper, was ruled last week to have broken research rules by the General Medical Council.
The publication caused vaccination rates to plummet, resulting in a rise in measles.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #125 on: February 02, 2010, 10:30:11 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/02/lancet.retraction.autism/index.html

The medical journal The Lancet on Tuesday retracted a controversial 1998 paper that linked the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine to autism.

I guess Jesse Ventura can pack it up and go home with no more hysteria to feed :(



Well.  Someone ought to let Livia know.

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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #126 on: February 02, 2010, 10:31:23 AM »

Oh there will always be more hysteria.  It's part of the human condition.

Waiting for 2012....
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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #127 on: February 02, 2010, 03:39:05 PM »
No mess jesus!

Indeed... No mess jesus!

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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #128 on: February 03, 2010, 09:36:52 AM »
I simply believe that they need to do more research into the levels Thimerosal & Aluminum in vaccines (including in their adjuvants). It is sad to say that this research may never happen, because the ingredients in each manufacturer's adjuvants are considered trade secrets. I just can't believe that they should inject us and our children with concoctions that have ingredients they will not disclose in the package insert for the vaccine. We will continue to see problems (Autism, Asthma & Allergies - caused by oils used in the adjuvants) until we have full disclosure and they MAKE OUR VACCINES CLEAN!
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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #130 on: February 05, 2010, 09:45:46 AM »
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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #131 on: February 05, 2010, 10:25:56 AM »

http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/lancet_retracts_autism_paper

I heard about it on the news and then dug this up today. For those that do not feel like following the link.

http://www.mariettatimes.com/page/content.detail/id/519278.html

A study that linked the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine and autism has been retracted by the British medical journal that published it 12 years ago.

According to the Associated Press, The Lancet issued the retraction on Tuesday, a week after Great Britain's General Medical Council ruled that the lead physician on the study, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, had acted unethically and shown a "callous disregard" for the children used in his study.

Still, Ginger O'Connor, director of early childhood and therapy for the Washington County Board of Developmental Disabilities, said people should "be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water."

O'Connor, considered an expert in autism in both the region and the state, agrees that the integrity of the study was compromised, but "that doesn't mean the results are wrong." Rather than use that study as a benchmark though, reasearch into the subject needs to continue, she said.

According to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Web site, www.cdc.gov; the agency is committed to investigating the issue to the fullest extent possible, even though multiple studies have failed to show a link between vaccines and autism and evidence to the contrary is accumulating.

"There has been absolutely no proven scientific evidence that there is any connection," said Kathleen Meckstroth, Washington County health commissioner.

Despite that lack of evidence, the federal Food and Drug Administration recommended removing thimerosal - a preservative that contains mercury and has been used in some vaccines and other products since the 1930s - from vaccines routinely given to infants. Since 2001, it has not been used as a preservative in those vaccines, except for some flu immunizations, according to the CDC Web site.

O'Connor isn't convinced vaccinations are a cause of autism. But she doesn't think the possibility should be ignored.

"What we know about autism, from most researchers, is that there is believed to be some sort of genetic component and then there's an environmental hit," she said. "And we don't know what that environmental hit is."

O'Connor said it is frustrating to know the number of children affected by autism is increasing and not have a reason.

"We're just losing these kids to this horrible, horrible disorder and we don't know why," she said.

The CDC estimates an average of 1 in 110 children have some autism spectrum disorder. Autism spectrum disorders are a group of developmental disabilities that can cause significant social, communication and behavioral difficulties. They range from "classic" autism - in which affected people usually have significant language delays, social and communication challenges and unusual behaviors and interests - to Asperger syndrome and other related conditions.

O'Connor said the timing of vaccinations and recognition of autism symptoms can make may parents wary of a connection, despite research saying there is no link.

"By the time a child is about 18 months to 2 years (old), they could have up to 20 vaccines in their bodies," she said. "Lots of times parents don't pick up children's characteristics of autism until 18 to 24 months.

"So what is it that kicks on that we start 'losing' children at 18 to 24 months?"

According to The Los Angeles Times, the aftermath of Wakefield's study (which was co-authored by 12 other physicians, 10 of whom have since renounced it) included many parents in Great Britain and the United States choosing not to have their children vaccinated.

Meckstroth said there are some in the Washington County community who take this approach. She said she understands individuals being able to make their own choices for themselves and their children, "but when it affects a community... it becomes public health's problem to deal with."

Some people might believe it's better for a child to get a disease and develop immunity on their own, Meckstroth said. However, she said infants who are not old enough to receive the vaccinations could then be exposed to someone with such a disease, which could result in serious illness and even death.

Meckstroth said that is likely one of the factors in a handful of whooping cough cases reported in the county in the last three years. Some older children need booster shots against the disease, also known as pertussis, and individuals whose immunity had waned may have been exposed to someone not fully protected, although not necessarily locally.

O'Connor said she believes children should be vaccinated because the health risks are too great otherwise. However, she said it is prudent for parents who are concerned to talk to their doctors about the issue and consider different approaches.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #132 on: February 07, 2010, 08:20:14 PM »
"The press has been deeply misled in the way The Lancet retraction, and Dr. Wakefield's mock trial, have been characterized. Led by the pharmaceutical companies and their well-compensated spokespeople, Dr. Wakefield is being vilified through a well-orchestrated smear campaign designed to prevent this important new work from seeing the light of day."

There are always two sides to every story. I'm currently reading the attached first study discussed in the following link. We should each do our own research and also question The Lancet's timing.

http://www.naturalnews.com/028109_Andrew_Wakefield_Jenny_McCarthy.html

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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #133 on: February 07, 2010, 11:42:03 PM »
http://www.naturalnews.com/028109_Andrew_Wakefield_Jenny_McCarthy.html

That website is not even a little bit credible.

That's the same site where Livia gets her news about the conspiracy to depopulate the planet with H1N1.
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Re: Mandatory Vaccinations 2009
« Reply #134 on: February 08, 2010, 07:23:10 AM »
http://www.naturalnews.com/028109_Andrew_Wakefield_Jenny_McCarthy.html

That website is not even a little bit credible.

That's the same site where Livia gets her news about the conspiracy to depopulate the planet with H1N1.

Wow, we should all be careful!
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